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Bob Dylan and Shakespeare, For Two
Not to brag—I wouldn’t know what I’m bragging about—but over the years, reviewers as well as readers who’ve contacted me through e-mail or Facebook have occasionally described my work as “generous” and me as a “generous” poet.
What does that mean? True, I’d rather be thought of that way than as “stingy” or “miserly.” And it might be a euphemism: telling someone they’re generous could mean they talk too much or overstay their welcome. I do send my poems out freely when I think I’ve finished them, but doesn’t every poet do that? These days it’s hard enough to get a letter to the editor of a small-town newspaper published, much less a poem. Solomon urges us to cast our bread upon the waters, and who am I to challenge the king of the Twelve Tribes of Israel, much less one reputed to have 700 wives and 300 concubines?
But that doesn’t bring me any closer to the idea of what it means to be generous, so let me think here about what generosity means in a broad artistic sense, then cite a dozen artists who strike me as giving us more than we might expect them to, which is a standard definition of generosity, and then wrap things up in in a way intended to make generosity less an abstraction and more a working strategy that can be used by poets but also artists of every kind.
As always, the best way to define something is to begin by looking at that something’s most remarkable examples. Right off the bat, Bob Dylan pops to mind. “Tangled Up in Blue” runs to 98 lines, whereas typical songs by the Beatles and the Rolling Stones are much shorter: “Yesterday” is only 24 lines, and “You Can’t Always Get What You Want,” one of the Stones’ longer efforts, is a mere 77—actually, it’s just 62 lines, since the title is repeated 15 times.
And look at the number and variety of images in the Dylan song, from a seedy bar to a crash pad in Brooklyn to slavery and lumberjacks and mathematicians and carpenters’ wives, not to mention “an Italian poet / From the thirteenth century,” himself a pretty generous guy in that Dante takes us through Hell, Purgatory, and Heaven, introducing us to any number of saints, sinners, and monsters, not to mention the Devil himself.
Then there’s Shakespeare. Don’t get me started. Do you think Shakespeare said “I better limit myself” just before he writes Act 2, Scene 1 of Midsummer Night’s Dream, where Oberon tells Puck how he sat on a cliff and saw a mermaid riding on a dolphin’s back and singing such a song as made the very world bend a knee to its beauty and then saw as well Cupid flying between the earth and the moon and firing an arrow at a Vestal virgin and missing her, though the arrow lands on a white flower and turns it “purple with love’s wound,” and this turns out to be the very flower that Puck will now fetch to bewitch fairy and high-born Athenian alike and spark among the characters such japes, jibes, shenanigans, tomfoolery, and star-crossed love as have never been seen this side of the Peloponnesian Peninsula?
I think not. He could have had Oberon say, “Fetch me that flower,” as he eventually does, but first he gives us a mermaid, a dolphin, a song so sweet as to calm the sea and shake the very stars, not to mention Cupid, a virgin, a flower made magic by the god’s arrow, and all told by a sorcerer to his apprentice in a single speech tossed off as casually as if he were ordering lunch.
As far as giving you your money’s worth, Shakespeare is also known for inserting a play within a play: in Midsummer, the rude mechanicals perform Pyramus and Thisbe at the wedding of Theseus and Hippolyta, and The Murder of Gonzagois staged in Hamlet to expose Claudius’s murder of the title character’s father. But The Taming of the Shrew, Love’s Labour’s Lost, The Tempest, and Henry IV, Part 1 also incorporate elements of the play-within-a-play device.
Pinter, Ariosto, Body Horror, Blah-Blah, Blah-Blah-Blah
Okay, Dylan and Shakespeare. What about Charles Dickens? English critic Emma Smith was probably thinking about novels like Bleak House and Our Mutual Friend when she said, “What’s great about Dickens is the maximalist, chock-a-block, teeming sense you get of that world. His work is like an extraordinary baroque cathedral that you could spend your life looking at, absorbed in the detail.” Another scholar, Sarah Perry, notes that “[Dickens’] prose was so strange. What’s magical about his work is how on earth he managed to get away with gritty social commentary absolutely latched to the conditions of the day, but also being completely surreal. It’s a sleight of hand that’s almost impossible to pull off, or even to see how he pulls it off. It leaves me completely agog.”
How Dickens pulls it off is through generosity. He weaves the gritty commentary and the surreal, and just as we get used to the one, he switches to the other. He lays it on thick, the point being you can get away with anything if you’re generous enough.
Like plays? Let’s put Harold Pinter’s Betrayal up against Georges Feydeau’s A Little Hotel on the Side. Pinter’s play has three characters and traces an extramarital affair between Emma and Jerry, her husband Robert’s best friend, as it explores deception, emotional ambivalence, and the cruelty that results when relationships go awry. Feydeau’s play uses the same materials, though his cast includes the two married couples who alone are enough to populate a sex farce but also a philosophy student pursued by a housemaid, Victoire, who adds fuel to the fire with her own romantic entanglements. Then there’s Mathieu, one of the male lead’s hapless friends who arrives on stage with four unruly daughters and whose efforts to keep them in check only adds to the already considerable confusion. The hotel staff, including the eccentric proprietor Bastien and a clueless bellhop, are swept into the maelstrom of mistaken identities, slamming doors, and wild accusations that typify Feydeau’s intricate and fast-paced comedic style. Oh, and the hotel is haunted.
Are you howling with laughter? If you are, whatever you’ve read or heard or seen is generous. But if you’re simply groaning or smirking, it’s not—dad jokes aren’t generous. The same goes for comedy’s opposite, of course. Tragedy will leave you weeping, whereas a play or poem or story or film that merely troubles you will elicit little more than a sigh. But comedy has an extra trick up its sleeve. In addition to the yucks and snorts and chortles you enjoy along the way, comedy often leaves you with an extra present toward the end, which is that the broken world is put together again: at the end of A Little Hotel on the Side, the truth comes out with no major consequences and everyone returns to their proper places, chastened but aware that their lives, like yours, may be ruffled from time to time but will go on largely unchanged.
For my money, no work is more generous than one of the many epics composed between the time of Homer and the Renaissance. Thre’s The Odyssey, The Aeneid, Beowulf, The Song of Roland, and Gargantua and Pantaguel, but there are also works less familiar to Western readers like The Shahnameh by the Persian poet Ferdowsi which consists of some 50,000 couplets and is variously described as one of the world’s longest epic poems and the longest epic poem created by a single author.
A personal favorite of mine from this category is Ariosto’s Orlando Furioso, in which the hero of the title traverses Europe and Africa as he searches for Angelica, who loves not him but Medoro, while another character, Ruggiero, battles his enemies, rescues the female warrior Bradamante, and flies a hippogriff (look it up). Astolfo travels to the moon to restore Orlando’s sanity. Charlemagne’s forces fight invading Saracens. Magic rings, sorceresses, and enchanted castles abound, as does a whale you can ride like a horse. Fun!
There’s no end to examples of literary generosity such as these, is there? I’d add Melville to my list, but many readers find him too generous—there’s a whaling story in there somewhere in his most famous book, but it’s blanketed with digressions on everything from alehouses to astrononomy—and you could say the same about Melville’s contemporary Whitman except that he already beat you to it (“I am large, I contain multitudes”).
And I haven’t even mentioned visual artists like Red Groomes, Henry Darger, the Michelangelo of the Sistine Chapel ceiling. Such contemporary poets as Hera Lindsay Byrd, Chessey Normile, Karyna McGlynn, Jennifer L. Knox, and Barbara Hamby, who happens to be my wife, but more on her later. Rachmaninoff and Tchaikovsky, sure, but also Chuck Berry, The Grateful Dead, and Phish (whose lead guitarist and co-founder Trey Anastasio defines a typical song by that band as something simple at the beginning and end with a whole lot of notes in the middle). Comics like Bridget Everett, Amy Schumer, Bette Midler, Richard Prior, Chris Rock, George Carlin. Filmmakers like Charlie Chaplin, Harold Lloyd, Francis Ford Coppola, and even purveyors of body horror like Coralie Fargeat, whose recent movie Substance depicts the travails of Elisabeth Sparkle (played by Demi Moore), a fading celebrity whose use of a black-market drug to create a younger version of herself leads to, uh, unforeseen consequences.
I’m repelled by gross-out horror that strikes me as lazy, but a film in which the main character gives birth out of her shoulder to a third (or fourth or fifth) breast that plops out on the stage during a televised New Year’s Eve concert watched by millions? Sign me up!
The Zipper Test
I began this essay with an uneasy admission that I don’t really know what the word “generous” means, which could be a limitation on my part but also a tribute to that word’s complexity, unlimited potential for application, and overall unpindownableness. Then again, a lot of arty terms work that way. Try defining “atonality” or “Abstract Expressioism”: wouldn’t it better just to listen to a few works by Schoenberg and Webern and Stockhausen or look at paintings by Willem de Kooning, Helen Frankenthaler, and Jackson Pollock? But before I list a dozen works by different figures from a variety of fields that hint at the different forms generosity can take, let thank a gentleman named Ed McManis, who emailed me out of nowhere a few months back and, in many ways, provided the starting point from which this essay springs. Mr. McManis had seen a poem of mine he liked and said this about his experience first studying poetry and then teaching it to his own students.
Having studied with the purists and professors who were shackled and enamored with verse and pentameter and villanelles, well, you get formed a certain way. You start looking for metaphors and alliteration and enjambment—whatever the hell that is—and before you know it, you’re a critic and you’re living by yourself watching Deal or No Deal in your underwear.
All that changed when McManus became the teacher, though.
When I taught poetry to high school kids who didn’t read, who certainly didn’t read poetry or literature or really, anything (I worked with dyslexic and ADHD kids who hated school), I could get ‘em half-interested by picking poems with blood and guts and “quirky” themes like Kooser’s “The Urine Specimen.” I’d have them take the poem, or book or piece of paper and turn it sideways. Then, I’d mime opening a zipper and I’d tell them to unzipper the poem, and they’d look funny at me and then one brave kid would do it—and you know teenagers—you get one, then they all follow. And then I’d have them shake the page, book, paper . . . just shake everything out of that poem onto the desk.
The result?
Now with those abstract “thought” and “feeling” poems with broad and lazy language, nothing would fall out onto the desk. However, with a poem like yours? The desk is rattling and overflowing with stuff.
I couldn’t have said it better. To me, a poem is either generous or it’s stingy. It writes you a check or it sends you a bill. Every poem is either a good gift or a bad gift, a fat-tire bike with a bell and a basket or tube socks. That doesn’t mean a poem has to be long to be generous: The— Odyssey is bighearted and bounteous, but so are the poems of Emily Dickinson.
To be generous, a poem just has to pass Ed McManis’s zipper test: turn the poem on its side, unzip it, and shake it out over your desk. If the poem is miserly, nothing will fall out, but if it’s a generous poem, the desk will be heaped high with images, ideas, emotions.
The zipper test works just as well for songs, stories, movies, sermons, web sites, emails, letters political rants, shopping lists, and these little notes thoughtful people put into their sweethearts’ lunch boxes. Anything the human heart and mind comes up with can write you a big fat check or send you a bill instead.
My (or A) Top 12
So what have we learned so far? Mainly that it’s hard to define something that doesn’t lend itself to a simple definition and therefore it’s certainly easier, not to mention vastly more important, to illustrate and, by doing so, celebrate that thing. The problem with that approach is that it doesn’t leave the reader with much in the way of takeaway: no crisp summary, hook, teaser, thumbnail, elevator pitch.
About the best one can say is that, to paraphrase what a couple of friends have said in the course of one conversation or another, the generous work is likely to be characterized by rich imagery, driving rhythms, pleasure in language, and rewards in easy reach; certainly it gives others the benefit of the doubt, is considerate of human flaws and frailty, may indeed be more forgiving of persons and circumstances than they deserve but not ignorantly forgiving—the generous work exudes grace toward the subjects and characters it treats, but it’s also conscious of its grace.
Howvere, as William Blake says (and no writer is more generous than the Funny Bunny of English Romanticism), “Truth has Bounds, Error none.” So let me try to make up for all that spitballing I did earlier with an 12-item list intended to inspire the reader to compile his or her own, bearing in mind that such a list could be three items or 100 and not include a single item on mine as well as consist partially or entirely of items I’ve never heard of. The list that follows, my list, might be an outline for a book, a syllabus for a class, a reading list to be used to while away one’s evening hours and weekends. With one exception, it doesn’t include any of the artists or works mentioned earlier; it could include any or all of them. It could include whatever you want it to.
Here goes.
Copyrighted by singer/songwriter Harry McClintock in 1928, it’s a modern version of the medieval Land of Cockayne, where roasted pigs have knives in their backs to make carving easy, grilled geese fly right into one’s mouth, and everyone enjoys eternal youth. If you’re looking for an even longer song that’s chockful of goodies, try Don McLean’s nearly-nine-minute “American Pie.”
I Love You, World
That’s it. And I haven’t even mentioned The Canterbury Tales, which—okay, enough! As in The Sorcerer’s Apprentice, be it Goethe’s 1797 poem or Paul Dukas’s musical composition from a hundred years later or the Mickey Mouse cartoon that is one of the most memorable parts of Disney’s 1940 Fantasia, once you get going on this theme, it’s hard to stop.
Although “theme” isn’t quite the right word, is it? For artists, as with anyone who chooses it, generosity is a way of life. In his Nobel Prize acceptance speech, Derek Walcott said that “the fate of poetry is to fall in love with the world,” and that means falling in love with everything in it. I’m a poet, but I’m also a music writer. Over the years I’ve noticed that the people who have the strongest feelings about different types of music—they’ll tell you they don’t like country, for example—aren’t musicians, whereas those who actually sing and play for a living tend to like music of every kind.
Speaking of which, a recent New York Times obituary of shape-shifting musical icon David Johansen, who co-founded the punk/glam rock New York Dolls band and then reinvented himself as lounge-lizard cabaret crooner Buster Poindexter and later became a film and TV actor, radio host, and raconteur, cited the artist’s”joyful spirit and endless productivity.”
Aren’t those two qualities the same?
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Author notes:
The comments on Dickens by Emma Smith and Sarah Perry appear in a March 2, 2025 article by Killian Fox in The Guardian entitled “Who is better, Dickens or Shakespeare? We asked nine prominent writers.” (It’s hard to say, but the panel seems to give a slight edge to The Bard).
The two friends mentioned at the start of the section called “My (or A) Top 12″ are Karl Chwe and Kimberly Ann Priest. Thanks, you two.
As for that Barbara Hamby poem, you’ll have to subscribe to The New Yorker, but it’s worth it. Here’s the link.
Copyright 2025 David Kirby
David Kirby (born 1944) is an American poet and the Robert O. Lawton Distinguished Professor of English at Florida State University. His many books include The Knowledge: Where Poems Come From and How to Write Them (Flip Learning, 2021) and The Winter Dance Party: Poems, 1983–2023 (LSU, 2024).
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What a wonderful, rich, inspiring essay! I’ll be sharing it. Thank you, David Kirby.
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I am so fortunate to have fallen into this brilliant company. A science major, I only took one English class in college ( my favorite class, Shakespeare—maybe I should have paid attention to how much I loved it). Although I secretly wrote poems for years and for a while filled many diaries with young angst, it is only in these late years, I have come to realize how much I missed. I appear to have read much of what is discussed here ( but never analyzed beyond my own brief thoughts). Oh to have had you for a professor! After reading Michael’s poems, I can confess to envy, but wish I had taken more literature courses before age and stroke intervened.
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I always love your posts here, Barbara!
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Thank you.
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Good topic. I remember people used to call me “generous,” but what they meant was, I reviewed my contemporaries favorably, breaking an important careerist rule: Don’t praise the competition. I think of one contemporary who, when interviewed and asked the eternal question, “Whose work do you like?” would cite very, very minor coevals, usually friends, and withhold praise from the real “contenders” (in the On the Waterfront sense). But I don’t myself regard those favorable reviews as generosity because I truly enjoyed the books I praised: they were a pleasure to read and discuss. On the other hand, maybe the hard work and long hours of writing recommendations for various friends and former students was a better example of the concept, helping them get their tenured positions or their special chairs in academe, all of this effort performed out of the world’s sight and not paid for, as–once in a while!–reviews in fact are.
Also, since we are friend, hope you won’t mind if I take issue with the assumption that generosity in literature invariably means length, abundance, volubility. Pound said the true poet must learn [to] “condensare,” distill, create “infinite riches in a little room” (Marlowe). As with Sappho, Dickinson, Lorine Niedecker. That too is a form of generosity, but like other instances, it might go unnoticed, which is why I mention it. Thank you, David, for your stimulating essay.
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As I tell my classes, Alfred, even a little poem can be big.
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As I tell my classes, Alfred, even a little poem can be big.
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Oh, wow… and I am not sure how my poems would fare in the zipper test. Love your work! And your wife’s!
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Brilliant, brilliant. Dear David, that’s brilliant! You must have had SUCH a good time writing this, no? Ah how I have enjoyed reading “On Generosity”!
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Totally absorbing and persuasive! Thanks!Sent from my iPhone
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Generosity: a little pinprick-of- a-vaccine against animosity,
or a much longer needle in Kirby’s winsome ponder.
in the battle of the generosities, my zipper’s stuck.
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Hahahaha! Mine too. Thanks, Jim!
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